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Re: [LUG] Raspberry Pi Ventilator
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- Subject: Re: [LUG] Raspberry Pi Ventilator
- From: comrade meowski <mr.meowski@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:18:15 +0100
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On 14/04/2020 17:17, Gordon Henderson wrote:
When we wanted to, we could build a oil fired steam powered cargo ship
from plate steel to launched and sailing over the atlantic in under a
day. (3 ships every 2 days)
I'd like to unpack this a little bit to add context and specificity -
not because I necessarily disagree in any way or suspect Gordon of
jingoism ("spirit of the blitz" blah blah blah) but because clarity is
important.
"We" here is "the USA"*: furthermore it was a bunch of people, now
mostly dead, in a very different USA at a very different and specific
point in history when they had both the manufacturing capacity and the
political will to do so. Just because the USA of then were able to
achieve $FEAT1 - in no way comparable with the current situation - does
in no way mean or even imply the the USA of today can achieve $FEAT2.
It's debatable if the USA of today has either the manufacturing capacity
or the political will and the UK likely has neither - but not really by
me as I am woefully under-qualified to do so having nowhere near
sufficient information to form any meaningful conclusion. As is I
suspect pretty much everyone else.
*The British designed the liberty ships, the Americans built them.
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