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Re: [LUG] Excel Spreadsheet formula

 

i would not agree sql and databases are def not an easy thing to pick
up and run with. Thats why most people use spreadsheets it seems an
easy tool to program  but get in a real mess when the problems get
bigger then a few sheets and more complex logic etc.

i agree sql and databases are the route too go but it will be a steep
learning curve on this first project and depends how flexible the boss
is. Do they have any idea about the reality of building computer
programs etc , it magic to most people and there alway under estimate
the time it takes to build a software system one of things that still
plagues the computer industry the amount of projects that just get
shelved and forgotten about.

etc etc

i could go go on about this subject pet hate and one reason i can't
find a job anymore alongside disability and health problems also being
out of programming job for 18 years and living off disability
allowance and the roundabout of esa and jsa and icb(old esa) etc

mark redditch worcesterhire.



On 18 April 2015 at 08:50, Jay Bennie <jay@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm sure this thread got to some conclusion, all i'll say is if your persistent 
> with spreadsheets , then a pivot tables and vlookups are the way to do reporting 
> and segmentation, and dropdowns. Tricky to master but worth it. ...
>
> However, it will be a pain in the arse and in the long terms unsupportable. (human 
> error vs ability to constrain input = crap data = massive waste of time & errors)
>
> an option (and a good one for your use case :  i strongly recommend a simple file 
> based database for this use case
>
> This means no SQL server to make life complicated
> Can be put on a share drive
> Not vendor specific
> Options to develop further
> With an ODBC plugin use from excel.
>
> for more info see
> http://www.sqlite.org/about.html
> http://www.sqlite.org/download.html
>
> for an Access clone on Linux (i just found this OpenSource project - this is not a 
> recommendation - it could be !)
> http://kexi-project.org/wiki/wikiview/index.php@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> re: SQL ... its super easy      .... Select * from table where field = 'xyz';
> but there are lots of tools to make ths pain go away .... Excel with an ODBC 
> connection is an easy as specify a data source and a cell and press ok, the fields 
> maps to the cols and you can add/edit as you like to the data.
>
> Solving the user input dilemma:
>
> When it comes to the user side ... you should invest a little energy in building 
> an app or a web app.    toolkits like cake php can give you validated CRUD  web 
> pages with looks ups and other bells a whistles with very minimal effort , 
> investing 2-5 days learning and building something will be a worth while 
> investment .... you will easily waste the same time with excel and get no where 
> near the final outcome. at least with a app route your efforts will persist, and 
> have a positive cumulative effect.
>
> and if your worries about infrastructure , just install xamp locally and do 
> everything on your localhost until you get more proficient or want to spend a few 
> # on an pc to make things more reliable ... or even host it cheap web host .. 
> there is certainly no need to invest in expensive hardware.
>
>
> Best of Luck
> Jay
>
>
>
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