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On 20/06/14 19:07, Simon Avery wrote: > lol, never even heard of two of the four distros listed as choices! > > "Here's a choice of four types of apple. Which one is closest to an orange?" Ha, that's pretty much what I thought as well... I'd heard of all of them of course, but have never used or even thought about using the two obscure ones (Zorin & LXLE). They're both just going to be stupid Ubuntu remixes anyway. I love the way there's no open response for people to say "are you mad?" and suggest something sensible instead: talk about kneecapping yourself before a test. I suspect that his experience of any of those systems, especially on a crappy and ancient Dell laptop are not going to be good. Really, he should just install Win8.1 on it (it's surprisingly tolerant of ancient hardware and is well enough optimised to be perfectly usable on all but the worst of old rubbish) and call it a day if he's going to limit himself that much. For what it's worth, I would recommend - were it possible - that he uses Crunchbang Linux, which I have been using a lot recently on one of two corporate laptops: I've got a really nice new i7 running windows and a scuffed and tatty old netbook I scavenged out of the junk pile. The single core atom CPU, non-PAE, 1Gb RAM netbook for my uses far outperforms the slick new Dell - Crunchbang (Debian derivative) upgraded to the testing jessie release, Kali (nee BackTrack) repos added for easy access to all the pen-test tools, custom kernel + zram and it's such a sweet little machine. Admittedly it does suck for compiling but that's what I've got servers for. Full disk encryption and a total cost of £0 means that I don't even care if I lose, break or accidentally leave it on-site somewhere. This is definitely off-topic, but I noted that the Zorin distro seems to have retained the infamous spinning cube desktop effect so loved from the days of Gnome2/compiz: old school. That in turn reminded me that someone at work recently tipped me off to a tool I've been looking for for a long time: a proper virtual desktop tool for windows for when I have to use it. Any linux user usually misses their virtual desktops and a proper shell prompt on a windows box but shell replacements are two a penny: cygwin, etc. I thought I'd tried literally every virtual desktop tool for windows over the years and they always came up short so I'd given up, until I was pointed at dexpot.de, which is what I've been looking for. It even comes with the infamous spinning cube effect :] Highly recommended for any of those here who still frequently use windows through choice or necessity (I know there are several of you). Cheers -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq