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As Rob says, we've got a few of these, although most will end up as Win7 desktops. Great value, and a lot of bang for not much buck. Basic, and has a noisy PSU. Of the five, I've just packed one up for an RMA as 30 minutes after first turning on, and at the first Win7 install reboot, it refused to turn back on. Fans blow, light comes on - but no post, no beeps... Not loose ram, loose cpu - tried with cmos clear and unplugged both sata drives. My guess is PSU or Mobo failure, but being as it's only lived for 30 minutes I didn't really feel like spending much time diagnosing :) The rest are doing fine though, and it wouldn't put me off buying more. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq