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Re: [LUG] UEFI bios and Gforce 460 dueling

 

On Sat, 2012-08-04 at 18:15 +0100, bad apple wrote:
> On 04/08/12 17:05, Kevin Lucas wrote:
> > Hi all 
> >
> > I need some guidance with install a new PC It has UEFI bios, Intel quad
> > core, 8 gig of RAM and a GFX 460 Nvidia graphics card. As usual I
> > offered to help to introduce linux to an avid Gamer.
> >
> > I installed Win 7 ok 
> > then after a lot of mucking about with the Bios I got it to boot a live
> > CD ( UEFI installs a Windows BootLoader, so you have CD sata0 and
> > "windows bootloader" as boot choices, of course WBL was first).
> >
> > Eventually I get a distro to run ( Fedora 17 64 bit ) but only on the
> > onboard Graphics (intel) but it does see the 8Gig of Ram. None have so
> > far seen the Win7 boot partition and now Fedora has deleted the EFI
> > entry in the Bios!
> >
> > I can fix this with a win disk but...
> >
> > What is the best way to approach this
> >
> > and...
> >  Do I have any chance of running Linux on the GFX 460 (1Gig RAm)
> > Graphics.
> 
> Your post is extremely confusing... what motherboard does this system
> have? Unless you have an extremely odd el cheapo Chinese board (Foxconn
> make some very crappy motherboards for example) setting this system up
> to dual boot win7/linux should be incredibly trivial. Whatever you are
> doing, you are evidently doing it very wrong so:

ATI crossfirex socket 1155 Intel 
Dual bios

> 
> Reset the UEFI to defaults to undo any strange things you have done to
> it. Turn off the TPM module if you have one, set the UEFI boot order
> correctly (Disk, USB, DVD) and figure out which key to press during boot
> to access the boot menu (on my MSI board for example I press F11 to get
> a nice graphical list of available devices to boot from). You may need
> to find - and disable - the onboard graphics settings in UEFI as well,
> or at least tell it to initialize the Nvidia PCIe card instead. You
> should also make sure that SATA mode is set to AHCI.
All done correctly on first boot

> 
> (Re)install win7: by default it will create a 100Mb NTFS formatted
> System Reserved partition (the bootloader) and a main partition, also
> NTFS, sized according to your instructions during install. The remainder
> of your disk (I'm presuming you only have one) can be used to
> arbitrarily lay out your linux system which needs to be done after the
> windows install. Do yourself another favour and stop using CDs if your
> motherboard supports booting from USB - as it's apparently a modern one
> supporting UEFI it certainly should boot from USB.
DVds are fine when you realize the Bios layout.
> 
> Any modern linux distribution whatsoever will support NTFS out of the
> box during the install process, and most will even allow editing
> (moving, shrinking, etc) of any NTFS partitions detected. Fedora 17
> certainly does: I am unsure what  you mean by your previous linux
> attempts have failed to "see" the windows partitions and can make even
> less sense out of Fedora "deleting" EFI entries (it certainly hasn't,
> perhaps you could clarify this a little more).

All failed to fallback mode on the graphics
All systems (linux) on install can see the ntfs but dont see the Win
boot loader ( its on a 3rd partition)

so all fail to set up grub correctly
I ve tried 
Ubuntu Mint Debain Suse Mageia in 32 and 64 bit

 all fail on the graphics
Fedora is stable with nouveau on the internal card only. 
try the 460 and you just get no display.

> 
> Once you have your linux system installed as well make sure that the
> ntfs-3g package is installed from your package manager (it usually is by
> default, but check anyway). Your Nvidia 460 is definitely supported
> under linux:
> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-amd64-295.59-driver-uk.html
> - you will need to install the nvidia driver package either from your
> distribution's repositories or direct from Nvidia.
No it fails only nouveau in Fedora gives me some joy.

> 
> However, considering there is a local exploit
> (http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.security.full-disclosure/86747)
> allowing trivial privilege escalation to root in all current Nvidia
> binary linux drivers which they don't seem to care about fixing, you may
> just want to stick with the open source nouveau driver instead if the
> performance is acceptable.

> 
> Let us know how you get on - if you're unlucky you may need to modify
> the grub command to disable ACPI or something to enable initial booting
> of the linux installer but we'll deal with that if it comes up.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mat
> 

Ill start again it's a 1 tera disk so ill reforamt and let Win do its
thing with a 100 gig partition 

then we'll see what grub makes of the disk partitioning with Dual Bios.
NB I used EasyBCD and it could see no boot sectors at all! from within
windoze.


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