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On 20/04/12 08:28, tom wrote: > > When php, the bastard abomination of code that it is, came out there was > NO other free, open, cross system, interpretable, human readable 'CGI' > language available for windows. There is a lesson here I'm sure. Perl was already at version 5 before PHP was released as a language, but Perl wasn't easily usable on Windows. Whilst Perl can look like line noise, it can be used to write decent looking and comprehensible code. Embperl was started 1997, Template Toolkit 1996, so some of the web tools were later but then some of those are quite sophisticated. Perl itself was widely used before web server programming took off, so it was available on pretty much all Unix systems back then. Probably why early PHP ideas were done as a set of tools in Perl. I'm curious what proportion of early web programming was done on Windows, I know my employers did a big ASP project a couple of years after PHP was released. By that time we at the Met Office had been doing CGI programming for a while, although most of mine was written in Korn shell (korn shell was sufficient since we'd built tools we could script to run on HP-UX, Solaris and UNICOS and were mostly stringing those tools together in a secure network environment to make them easily accessible to people without the desire or ability to string command lines together). I suspect a corporate, academic split here. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq