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Hi in python if open a terminal window and load python and then use the code import turtle t = turtle.pen() as per the code mentioned in snake wrangling for kids (kids python book) adn it displays a canvas thing that has a pointer which is linked to the above code, I can then draw things with python However if I use the same code in geany which is a text editor for programming the code a runs without a problem but doesn't display the canvas, I just wondered what is going wrong. I assume the canvas is some sort of child process that isn't being called up as a result of using geany, but not sure. I am just beginning this so if its normal I can run stuff from the console otherwise if its simple to fix I can run from geany and display the canvas then that would be useful, Paul -- -- http://www.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/listfaq