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On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 22:03 +0100, Neil Stone wrote: > Neil Williams wrote: > >> On the DVD: Debian 5.0 Lenny > > > > That's a cheek - there will be lots of fixes before Lenny is released > > and there are a lot of *known* bugs in testing right now. Giving people > > the current testing *as if it was the real thing* will only expose more > > people to *known* bugs. > > > >> This month we bring you Debian 5.0. > >> > >> * Get a sneak peek at Debian 5.0 with a "testing" version > > > > Should still not be regarded as Debian 5.0, IMHO. > 4.1 maybe...? I'm not sure - Debian 4.x has to have some relation to Etch. Yet this isn't Lenny either because Lenny isn't ready yet. Heck, the freeze isn't even complete yet - the freeze is in place for new uploads but everything in unstable prior to the freeze is still allowed time to migrate into testing. Many important changes are in unstable, with a freeze exception already granted, waiting the obligatory 10 days before migration into testing. Maybe just call it what it is: A Debian testing snapshot. No version, no claim that it is "Lenny", no claim that it is "the" anything, just someone's snapshot at a particular time of something that is still undergoing important changes to fix known bugs. It's not even a pre-release or a preview - what you get with this CD could be quite different to what you would get with a snapshot made just a day later. It's premature, rushed, buggy and unsupported. Everything Debian is not. :-) Just waiting 10 days until the final updates migrate into testing cannot be that much to ask, can it? More important than anything else is the state of the installer and the freeze is done to support the installer and the testing of the release - migration paths, fixing of critical bugs - all the things that people need out of an installation. It is, IMHO, bonkers to think that a pre-freeze snapshot will be a useful installation for most users. A simpler, more logical, path would be to install Etch, change the apt sources to Lenny and upgrade with apt. That way, you get a stable, debugged, installer and the latest packages - but you'll still get the Lenny release-critical bugs. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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