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I've got some ralatives coming to stay and we have to put them up in my computer room so I've tidied up a bit and found a few odds and ends including an 80G serial hard drive which I'd forgotton about. I think I bought it to put swap on but before I go messing does anyone know how to easily measure read/write speed of drives so I can ascertain whether the serial drive will actually be better for swap than the IDE? Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html