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According to The Register, KDE 4.1 Beta has been released (link here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/29/kde_4point1_beta_1_released/) Just wondering if anyone is planning to give it a try? I'm tempted to give it a go as my PC does need a fresh install, although I'm not so sure about compiling the whole of KDE from scratch (small things, I don't mind, but a big app like KDE, I think I'd rather try a distro packaged version). Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html