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well my new PSU from novatech didn't solve the problem of my dead PC. Not a complete waste of money as the PSU in No. 2 PC has been sounding very dodgy and the new one is almost silent. After checking the harddrive is OK, by pluging it in to No. 2 I have purchased a "barebones" PC form Novatech. Basicaly this is the works with no harddrive or DVD burner. I'm pretty sure I've plugged it in OK. The DVD drive works and when I boot it I get the boot screen for PClinuxOS. It's after that it all goes pear shaped. After the boot screen it goes into boot up mode and does nothing. If I try from a live CD I get the following "can't access tty; job control turned off" this is preceeded with " no ide channels found, unable to mount livecd". Please does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks Simon -- Simon Robert www.oldhouse-cottage.co.uk -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html