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Just thought it was only fair to chuck in emacs. I am almost certain that everything you want is available as scripts if it isn't in the default install. Google says http://php-mode.sourceforge.net has the mode for it. -- Tom (the younger) -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html