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Just found out from the Ubuntu site that Gnome is 10 today! http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/gnome10years.html Only 3 more years to go before it starts getting stroppy and going off in a huff. (If it turns out anything like a 13 year old teenager anyway!) Rob -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html