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There is an article on Mono for the uninitiated on http://oreillynet.com/ the frontpage will probably be today only but the precis covers some of my gibber yesterday.... http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2007/08/09/mono-a-progress-report.html permanent link to the article. there is also a good article on behaviour based programming in ruby http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/ruby/2007/08/09/behavior-driven-development-using-ruby-part-1.html Tom te tom te tom -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html