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> GNOME. It's much faster (on startup, at least), I find KDE to be quicker across the entire desktop and about equal on startup. The first time I ran KDE it was slower but after that it was about the same: you do have to make sure that you close applications down before you log out though because otherwise they're loaded at start-up which can make things a bit slower - I guess there's a setting somewhere for this which you can change. >has a more pleasing look and That's totally subjective - you could probably make KDE look like Gnome and Gnome look like KDE. > is easier to program for. It also makes more regular incremental releases > rather than rehashing the entire system every couple of years; KDE makes frequent incremental releases as well. The 3 series has been around for sometime now but within that you see moves to point releases such as the current 3.5.x . The changes in these releases are pretty similar in scope to those that occur in a Gnome 2.16 -> 2.18 upgrade, at least from what I know. The reason there's a big upgrade going on now, i.e. KDE 4 is because the toolset it's based upon has been upgraded to QT4 - Gnome did the same thing when GTK moved to version 2 and I suspect if GTK moves to version 3 so will Gnome. > and the > human-interface guideline is much more sensible (I think KDE might not even > have one, which would explain a lot.) Linus Torvalds would disagree with you :-D...personally I like the Gnome way of doing things more but many people feel that it limits the user and makes it harder to use some "advanced" features. Jon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html