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I was thinking about just this kind of thing the other day, and today I noticed it in an article on el reg. http://www.it4communities.org.uk/it4c/index.jsp Might be worth a page on the website / wiki. Too busy to do anything about it at the moment but thought I'd mention it anyway. cheers, A. -- http://www.aarontrevena.co.uk LAMP System Integration, Development and Hosting -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html