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Hi Over here in canada (well BC canada), the local technology college is offering 3 linux courss, intro, system admin and something else, in addiiton it says if you are serious about being a System admin you need to know Linux, Looks like we are ahead of the UK esp as neither south devon college or dartington tech offer Linux courses, Are we any closer to getting Linux courses at local colleges, another course they do costs 27,000 dollars, and is aimed at filmmakers, you purchase the equipment as part of the course fee, and get expert help in producing a mini movie, or what every you want, not Linux related but they do some really cool stuff, Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG http://mailman.dclug.org.uk/listinfo/list FAQ: http://www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html