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Re: [LUG] [Fwd: Web perils advise switch to Macs]

 

Ben Goodger wrote:
> On 05/07/06, *Rob Beard* <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Ben Goodger wrote:
>     > On 05/07/06, *Rob Beard* <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Ben Goodger wrote:
>     >     > On 05/07/06, *Julian Hall* <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     >     <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     >     > <mailto: lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>>> wrote:
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>     >     >     http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5150508.stm
>     >     >
>     >     >     Ummmm Macs aren't the only option are they? :)
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > <bbc> What you're forgetting is that Linux is not used by
>     anyone
>     >     > except uber-geeks, and for that reason it's fine to ignore it
>     >     utterly,
>     >     > even down to using Realplayer for streaming media.</bbc>
>     >     >
>     >     > No, they're not, but for the average UK tv-license-payer, you
>     >     mustn't
>     >     > forget that Windows is a part of the computer, as is AOL.
>     A Mac
>     >     is the
>     >     > only even vaguely applicable alternative for them ("what's
>     this
>     >     > colonel thing?!")
>     >     > But meh: Mac == BSD == UNIX =~ Linux, so what's the big
>     deal? The
>     >     > point is to leave Windows - for all Sophos cares, we could
>     probably
>     >     > put people on ERNIE-2 dumb terminals...
>     >
>     >     ("what's this colonel thing?!") = The guy who knows what the
>     secret
>     >     herbs & spices are for a certain brand of fried chicken :-)
>     >
>     >     Mac == BSD == UNIX =~ Linux - Well not far off.  I think the big
>     >     differences would be the licence and freedoms.  I don't see
>     Apple
>     >     giving
>     >     away the source code for all their nice GUI features, or
>     allowing
>     >     anyone
>     >     to port/run MacOS X on any hardware.
>     >
>     >
>     > You can run Mac OS X on any hardware, there's a procedure for
>     doing it
>     > somewhere...
>     > The freedoms are largely immaterial from a security standpoint,
>     > particularly since all of the essential bits of those OSes (I was
>     > using UNIX to refer to a type of OS , e.g. "windows, mac os 9,
>     unix")
>     > are open-source/free.
>     Well you say ANY hardware but I wasn't aware you could run OS X on
>     a Sun
>     UltraSparc box which you can with Linux.  ;-)
>
I stand corrected on the above comment.  It appears that Apple's 
engineers did do a technical port of OS X to the Ultra Sparc!

http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2000/12/20001217112231.shtml (be warned - 
lots of annoying popups on that page).

Still they haven't got a released to public version of OS X for Sparc.
>
>     Of course the underlying parts (Darwin) are open source (under a BSD
>     licence?) but the nice gui isn't though is it.  Not to mention Apple
>     aren't too happy with people running MacOS X on non-Apple branded
>     x86-compatible hardware even though it is possible.
>
>
> It's possible to get the shiney GUI if you have an OS X cd, as far as 
> I recall.
>
But the source too?  I doubt Apple would let that go, it's the crown jewels.

Rob


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