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> however..having said that this mdem/router works, I > have to addd that I've just had an os apocalypse ........... Not with Debian surely :-0 -- W. Devon no/yes..actually with Ubuntu. I only managed to 'fix' it (ie get a working GUI pc) by downloading and installing kubuntu over the top. It was probably less of an os apocalypse than an Xfree86 one... :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe. FAQ: www.dcglug.org.uk/linux_adm/list-faq.html