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What precisely is the difference between a hub and a switch, on ebuyer they got networking products, and you can get a switch and network card together. I am using a router and hub and can play games over the network. One of the kids at the rugby club was asking me about networking, I am just not sure on the hub / switch difference, would friends be able to take laptops round and just plug in to the network. Also given the possible distance between his two computers, a) whats the max length of cat 5 we can use. b) if we went wireless, do we need line of sight, or are there other issues such as distance between computers, computers on different floors of the house etc. looking at options, I know each computer needs a network card and cable and either a hub or switch. The intnetion is to play games over the network and possiby share internet connection for games over the net, We have 2x Win98, 1x XP, most of the other computers will be running win98 i think. even though if they are on the net it should not matter. Thanks paul --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.