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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Neil Stone wrote: > David Bell wrote: > | Out of interest, do any other members of this list use "Red Carpet" for > | updating their distros? I have found it a covenient and completely > | painless method of updating SuSE, Mandrake and Evolution. > | > | David > > I used to use this.. was quite cool.. didn't have broadband at the time > tho so took aaaages.. > > However I now use debian.. much nicer.. > > apt-get update && apt-get upgrade One that burnt me the other day was that as far as I can discover Debian apt, doesn't log activity. If true this is a serious issue for some potential commercial users of Debian. I understand Aptitude does, but a log of system installation activity is pretty basic good configuration management, and making it optional (someone covering for you uses apt instead of aptitude) is a bad thing. Can someone explain the innards of what apt (and dpkg) does and doesn't do log wise.... and at what level logging should happen (perhaps apt is too high up?). Appreciate this obsession with configuration is mainly a big thing for big enterprise critical servers, but go speak with serious IT managers, ad you'll discover to what level system changes could, and did, leave an audit trail in the days of mainframes. Simon, who found the package in question by looking in the apt cache at file time stamps.... ouch. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+6F1vGFXfHI9FVgYRAi0XAJ9X/+QH1SRAZa58jIHWlHX6EkpZ8ACfWo9m Aevg8U6Wq3qk3VnTN9xaH5U= =2A7m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.