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RE: [LUG] suse to debian



 
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At 19:11 24/12/2001 +0000, you wrote:

> I find your E-mail interesting.  I too find the packet 
> management/upgrades 
> very difficult.  And rhpm almost impossible to come to terms 
> with.  Can you 
> post further details.

Hi Peter,

Debian uses a 'dpkg' system, with 'apt' tools (apt-get, apt-cache and
others) to manipulate the package database and
install/uninstall/upgrade packages.

Your system keeps a local list of all packages from remote servers
(and any local CD's you have), versions, and their dependancies.

You can update this list simply with the command "apt-get update". 
To update all packages you have installed on your system, do "apt-get
upgrade", and it'll download and install the latest versions. To
install a new package, its just "apt-get install <packagename>".  If
you want to find a package name, "apt-cache search <string>" is your
friend.

It really is as easy as that, I have never had pacakge dependency
problems in debian stable, though unstable has a few problems
occasionaly.  It's probably worth noting if you are new to debian
that there are 3 "mainstream" versions, stable, testing, and
unstable.  They are just as their names suggest ;)

Stable is rather outdated now, I can't even use it on servers for the
most part, and have to use testing.  Unstable is great if you want to
live on the bleeding edge, being only 1 or 2 weeks max behind CVS
versions.

I used to use Redhat, then at around v6.1 descovered Debian over a
drink in a pub with a friend in London, went home and investigated. 
I manged to install it in a drunk state, and picked it up in 1 or 2
days.  Within a few months we had migrated *all* our servers over to
Debian, and have used only debian since.

Trying to manage 16 servers with redhat is a full time job alone just
keeping things updated.  With debian it is *so* simple.  I have so
far managed to convert every single linux user to debian, bar one
(who is almost there after 6 months of working on him ;)).

OTOH, I don't like debian on desktops, I personally recommend
Mandrake for it, especially for newbies.  Trying to get your head
around the debian installer first time could probably be more than
nail biting.

There are a fair few differences with Debian over most other dists,
most notable they are not a commercial company, so have no deadlines,
so there are no mess ups like with redhat 7...

I've been lurking on this list for a few days, and this is my first
post here, so... Hi! I've only recently moved back down to Plymouth
from dull grey Swindon and London I was lost the last years.  It's
nice to be back in the south ;p  I'm not really 100% english, so bear
with me when my english is sometimes a wee bit odd ;)

I'm in plymouth at least 4 or 5 days a week, if any linux freaks want
to meet up in plymouth, im usually around, just mail me.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, to you all!

Theo

Theo Zourzouvillys
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