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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 19:11 24/12/2001 +0000, you wrote: > I find your E-mail interesting. I too find the packet > management/upgrades > very difficult. And rhpm almost impossible to come to terms > with. Can you > post further details. Hi Peter, Debian uses a 'dpkg' system, with 'apt' tools (apt-get, apt-cache and others) to manipulate the package database and install/uninstall/upgrade packages. Your system keeps a local list of all packages from remote servers (and any local CD's you have), versions, and their dependancies. You can update this list simply with the command "apt-get update". To update all packages you have installed on your system, do "apt-get upgrade", and it'll download and install the latest versions. To install a new package, its just "apt-get install <packagename>". If you want to find a package name, "apt-cache search <string>" is your friend. It really is as easy as that, I have never had pacakge dependency problems in debian stable, though unstable has a few problems occasionaly. It's probably worth noting if you are new to debian that there are 3 "mainstream" versions, stable, testing, and unstable. They are just as their names suggest ;) Stable is rather outdated now, I can't even use it on servers for the most part, and have to use testing. Unstable is great if you want to live on the bleeding edge, being only 1 or 2 weeks max behind CVS versions. I used to use Redhat, then at around v6.1 descovered Debian over a drink in a pub with a friend in London, went home and investigated. I manged to install it in a drunk state, and picked it up in 1 or 2 days. Within a few months we had migrated *all* our servers over to Debian, and have used only debian since. Trying to manage 16 servers with redhat is a full time job alone just keeping things updated. With debian it is *so* simple. I have so far managed to convert every single linux user to debian, bar one (who is almost there after 6 months of working on him ;)). OTOH, I don't like debian on desktops, I personally recommend Mandrake for it, especially for newbies. Trying to get your head around the debian installer first time could probably be more than nail biting. There are a fair few differences with Debian over most other dists, most notable they are not a commercial company, so have no deadlines, so there are no mess ups like with redhat 7... I've been lurking on this list for a few days, and this is my first post here, so... Hi! I've only recently moved back down to Plymouth from dull grey Swindon and London I was lost the last years. It's nice to be back in the south ;p I'm not really 100% english, so bear with me when my english is sometimes a wee bit odd ;) I'm in plymouth at least 4 or 5 days a week, if any linux freaks want to meet up in plymouth, im usually around, just mail me. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, to you all! Theo Theo Zourzouvillys Global Network Consultant + Notnet Consultancy [ www.notnet.co.uk ] - Specialising in Unix security, ISP Start-up and regeneration, - MySQL solutions, E-commerce, and Load balancing. + Notnet.co.uk - Quality web hosting at an affordable price - http://pinky.notnet.co.uk/ + http://www.anlx.net/ + Mobile: +44 7747 844 300 + theo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx + Personal Website: http://www.zozo.org.uk/ + Spod: telnet://www.trekkers-rest.com:3000/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPCeMZOOPAq8KU5+mEQJ6KwCfZKky32WSZsF5GBhDvaKe1jCgWXMAoID8 v1YcLaYYQiIp/JIhFJ+koc4d =56c0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.