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> That your flavour of traceroute runs as an ordinary user, may > just show they aren't as security conscious as other > distribution vendors. I had to specifically apt-get install tracerout - it isnt installed by default. It is version 1.4a12 (dunno if its still buggy). Also its installed to /usr/sbin/traceroute. had to symlink to /usr/bin. the irix one is wierd. All that sort of stuff, and almostall binaries, from java to ping, are in "/etc/bin". -- Paul Weaver p.j.weaver@xxxxxxxx Manston Road, Exeter "The best way to accelerate a windows box is at 9.8 meters per second square." -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.