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Re: comments: Re: [LUG] Open Source and Patents First Draft



Yes Rick send me a copy and I'll have a look at it.

Keith

On Monday 07 July 2003 9:18 pm, Rick Timmis wrote:
> Thanks for that Adrian
>
> There are so many strong comments in your email, I have just appended
> the whole thing to the document for inclusion into the text later
>
> Thanks Rick
>
> I have mailed you what there is now off list.
>
> If anyone else wants a copy let me know, although it needs work now to
> peice it all together. Perhaps Keith would like to have a crack at it
>
> Thanks Rick
>
> Adrian Midgley wrote:
> >EU/EC and national policy
> >-------------------------------------
> >In several areas the European Commission has promoted the use of
> >Open Source software, and the development by Open SOurce
> >methodologies, most notably in the field of healthcare.
> >
> >This accords well with several nations' policies of preferring
> >an Open Source solution to one which is encumbered, at present
> >by proprietary rights and non-publication of the source code,
> >but potentially by the inclusion of patented elements used to
> >lock public services into a particualar company's product.
> >
> >To the extent which extension or continuance of patentability of
> >software components impeded this, such an extension would be
> >contrary to that public policy and to the public interest which
> >the policies serve.
> >
> >References
> >
> >EC OSS in health
> >SPIRIT
> >http://www.euspirit.org/zope/en/linkxchg/index_html
> >
> >Munich city government IT procurement
> >http://www.forbes.com/home_europe/newswire/2003/05/28/rtr984204.html
> >
> >
> ><section ends>
> >
> >>>And possibly the public sector as distinct from corporate
> >>>industry (whose needs or wishes may include selling the same
> >>>thing every three years to teh public secotr <g>)
> >>
> >>Unsure how this fits in.
> >
> >I mean to distinguish a public sector such as healthcare or
> >local government from industry and commercial services.
> >
> >
> >The snide comment could best be left out, but ...
> >
> >Part of Microsoft's success comes from their providing the
> >channel, their partners and resellers, with a steady churn.
> >THis keeps the training firms for instance in work on a 3 year
> >cycle, paying upstream to be trained themselves, and then
> >charging downstream to teach how to do all the same things with
> >the new version of MS' office suite or GUI.
> >
> >(You have to move things around a bit, in ways that might
> >otherwise appear not to have any clear reason, to convince
> >people there is stuff to teach)
> >
> >But it is not necessarily so much in the interest of the
> >end-user, or the company that employs the end-user.
> >
> >>>^^^^^^ exploited, seized entered grasped serviced rather than
> >>>capitalised (my preference rather than any rule)
> >>
> >>Mmm Usure this doc must not ever appear to attack!
> >
> >serviced then, or served.
> >
> >
> >
> >The technologies underlying the Internet have arisen and been
> >developed in an Open Source fashion.
> >
> >The internet has become an everyday part of our lives and is now
> >an important aspect of business and public life {around the
> >globe| throughout the EU and its major trading partners.}
> >
> >>>^^^ it is a grassroots movement and activity
> >>
> >>Unclear as to your meaning here.
> >
> >Politicians like, or pay attention to, grass-roots movements.
> >They are different from organised commercial or political
> >lobbies, not least in the quality of lunches.
>
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