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Hi I found an old car park ticket with a web address on for the company who produces the adverts for the back of the tickets. it's www.adverticket.com. Looking at the site the rates seem very good, do you think it's worth mentioning to suse / redhat etc to see if they would advertise via car park tickets, Timed with a release of a certain other companies operating system (so the campaign cound end up being reguar). Would certainly benefit all involved. what do you think, does anyone have an e-mail for these companies for the promotion department, so I can try and e-mail them and suggest it? Just an idea thanks Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.