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On Monday 18 October 2004 00:00, Adrian Midgley wrote: and now it has changed. akm@xxxxx:~$ traceroute 82.152.204.177 traceroute to 82.152.204.177 (82.152.204.177), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 10.0.0.254 (10.0.0.254) 0.655 ms 0.331 ms 0.316 ms 2 lo1-bba1.th.eclipse.net.uk (212.104.130.141) 17.219 ms 16.232 ms 20.442 m s 3 ge1-2-core3.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.37) 18.465 ms 14.733 ms 14.573 ms 4 fe2-core2.th.eclipse.net.uk (81.5.191.10) 14.507 ms 15.060 ms 14.151 ms 5 pos6-core3.ex.eclipse.net.uk (212.104.128.161) 17.306 ms 17.977 ms 21.255 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * akm@xxxxx:~$ ping 82.152.204.177 PING 82.152.204.177 (82.152.204.177) 56(84) bytes of data. --- 82.152.204.177 ping statistics --- 19 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 17997ms I think that looks more promising. -- Adrian Midgley Open Source software is better GP, Exeter http://www.defoam.net/ -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.