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As the DVD copy was a no go Lee what aobut the option of putting the cd iso images on a dvd instead. I'm thinking it would be easier than sending a load of cd's backwards & forwards through the post & cut down on a load of disk swapping. let me know what you think. Ray --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 19/04/02 -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.