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...and check out thin client devices - the thinknic from www.fasttrackeurope.com cost about £250 which is much cheaper than buying a whole computer. money saved could be well spent on a decent 'application' server. that site also has links to www.ltsp.org which is the linux terminal server project. and as paul said - getting old PC's should be useful because they can be used as firewalls/routers/print servers etc. etc. kev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 12/11/01, 10:05:27 PM, "Paul Sutton" <psutton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote regarding Re: [LUG] Linux in Schools: > Sounds like a great idea. Perhaps one way of cutting down on costs could be > to write to local companies, explaining the plans and ask for any computer > equipment they no longer have any use for. Once you have collected a > certain amount of kit, you could then set about building small networks, > then approach local schools offering complete computer networks, running > Linux for X amount, You would charge to cover costs, time, and costs for > cables, hubs and other kit, overall I would guess for under 10,000 you > could set up a nice network, with internet access. I think some schools > also want things like cameras so they can use it for video conferencing, > (or allowing the kids to see and talk to each other at the same time), have > a look at mind storms and the Linux support and perhaps offer this as an > option, or a package on it's own. > Depending on what you collect you should be able to get some donated. You > could negotiate a support, installation contract with a local school. > Given limited budgets I am sure this would work, if done with the right > approach. > You also need to consider training on the software, as they would not want > to be left in the lurch if you move somewhere else and they are left with no > support, so you would also need to keep detailed notes on how the network is > set up. Again you could include this as part of the deal, > I am not sure what is best to do first, I would guess get the computers, > then approach schools, that way you don't have the problem of not being > able to get adequte equipment for the project. > Anyway good luck, if you need any help just let me know I have some bits I > may be able to donate, and various suppliers of computer bits. > Paul Sutton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hewson" <P.J.Hewson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 11 December 2001 12:37 > Subject: [LUG] Linux in Schools > > Hello, > > > > I have always wished I had time, energy and belief to get involved in > this. > > I understand that 15 networked computers in a primary school, with NT and > all > > the other M$ goodies along with proprietary network management software > can > > set you back £18,000 - £28,000 on a five year lease. Admittedly, that > does > > cover (some?) repairs if they are needed during the lease, and presumably > > software upgrades but still. As I don't have the bottle to remortage my > > house and attempt to start selling complete installations plus technician > (me) > > for half that, does anyone know of any Install-Fests aimed at schools? > This > > news item shows what's happening abroad:...... > > > > http://www.seul.org/edu/report59.html > > > > It's been hard to avoid the debate about the lack of sophistication of > desktop > > office suites on Linux, but surely what's available is good and reliable > > enough for primary schools? > > > > Regards. > > > > Paul > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Paul Hewson, Postgraduate Statistics Student (part-time) > > School of Mathematical Sciences, Laver Building, > > University of Exeter, North Park Road, EXETER EX4 4QE, U.K. > > > > tel: +44 1392 382773 fax: +44 1392 382135 > > email: P.J.Hewson@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > -- > > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > > Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the > > message body to unsubscribe. > > > -- > The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG > Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the > message body to unsubscribe. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.