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Heh, waddayouknow - it's not covered by the pcnet_cs driver, it is covered by the axnet_cs driver though! Uses up a lot of CPU power though I'm afraid, getting some nasty kernel messages in syslog too. still, it'll work for apt and occasional web use :) -- Paul Weaver p.j.weaver@xxxxxxxx Manston Road, Exeter "The best way to accelerate a windows box is at 9.8 meters per second square." -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.