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Hi, the D&C LUG now has a copy of SUSE Professional 7.2 I ought to be writing you all a review of this I'm sure, so I stuck it on my test box. Suffix to started the box with CD #1, followed the nice clear instructions, on uncluttered screen, and it completed a graphical install seemlessly. I think the PCMCIA may need some file editting to set up, but so far it is all point and drool. 7 CD's or one DVD - all the usual stuff but finally a distro that is even reasonably up to date on some bits. The install was the least painful operating system install I've ever done for the basics. I still have to address a couple of bits, the sound is playing silly buggers, and my ISA PCMCIA adaptor (Possibly hardware issues, maybe the lack of PCMCIA environment variable in the /etc/rc.config), but I suspect this is a minor problem. Install whilst painless lacks the security options of the Mandrake install, but looks very suitable for building Office workstations, or home user Desktops. The software selection is extensive, for my hobby I found 4 chess programs (GNUchess (as if I needed another copy!), Crafty, 3d Chess, and another, plus xboard of course), in the distro, and a copy of Java JRE/SDK etc from IBM will let me build some Freenet software and the like from source (something that was on the to do list, but postponed due to lack of disk space on my desktop box). Haven't try the Borland developer stuff yet. YaST2 seems just about usuable now, but there is just too many options, and too much software in the default Office install, too many bits that can be customised. The YaST software install and update stuff does seem to hide the underlying RPM mechnism a bit too well, but maybe I'll get it all sussed soon. I guess some will like not knowing how it installs the software, it is easy to install and set up what you need. Nice touch in the install was the option to save the chosen configuration to floppy to ease recreating it, should be good for Office roll outs. Accompanying documentation is good, I even found some ideas to help solve my PCMCIA problem in the documentation. So far a thumbs up - but the truth will come when I get to doing patches and upgrades. Will also review the KDE DNS and DHCP configuration tools if they work with BIND 9, should be interesting. Simon -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.