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Consider a situation where an organisation has researched a symbol set to be used to assist communication to / from / between people with learning difficulties. Lets assume that this set of symbols if not universally recognised, is recognised nationally here in the UK. For the organisation in question ( a charity ) the main form of income for continued R&D are "royalties" from selling the symbol set under copyright. Here comes the rub: The cost of each symbol set is (IMO) excessive. There is little distinction in cost between a "single user" pack and a 5, 10 , 15 etc, but the initial cost for a single user is as I said excessive (that is £60+ per a "single user" set of symbols (approx. 5 sets) ). This is not encouraging for the parents / teachers / carers of the children and adults for whom the set of symbols where developed in the first place, and is not encouraging to those considering development of free software that utilises the symbol database. So the options are (among others): 1. Persuade the charity in question to open up their symbol set. This is the preferable solution but considering that the charities main income source is through selling the symbol set as a resource (and other training products based on the symbol set) its going to be difficult to persuade them to let go. 2. Purchase a set of symbols (for development purposes), develop FLOSS but then tell the end user that they are going to have to purchase their own set of symbols in order to use it (which goes against the philosophy of GNU ). 3. Purchase a set and then develop an (open) derivative set using the same concepts. This could be a legal grey area. A legal challenge would do neither the charity nor the originator of a free version of the symbols any good, although there may be a few more lawyers going around in flash cars afterwards. The irony is that I can see a point in the future where the charity in question has to fold or at least curtail R&D because the market could not bear the cost of the product. In this case nobody (least of all the children and adults with learning difficulties) wins. It would be nice to see some FLOSS development based around this resource, but until the status quo changes I can not see how this can be achieved. I would like to try to persuade the charity to open up the database, but such a request would have to be very carefully worded and the arguments well crafted. Anyone got any ideas / comments to add to this ? Tom. Information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is the intended solely for the person ( or persons) to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender, and please delete the message from your system immediately. The views in this message are personal, they are not necessarily those of Torbay Council. -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.