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Unless I'm mistaken, there is no such thing as a cygwin CD or a security.debian.org (Woody) snapshop. Can you imagine how easy that would make my dialup life?! Anyway, I'm willing to pay cash or beer for such things if anyone can be bothred to download them and turn them into sensible CDs. That is to say that the former contains all that is required to install it and the latter acts as a well named Debian CD. Anyone fancy it? Steve -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.