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Thanks for everyones help so far I have....... j2re-1_4_2_01-Linux-i586.bin ..... sitting resolutely located in /home/richard What is required for me to fire it into action ?? Little footnote......I trained as a Computer operator in 1974 on an IBM 360/40 under GRASP......... I have to confess that Linux is proving the hardest concept to get hold of especially after years of DOS then WINDOWS. It used to be so simple.......Load half a hundred weight of punch cards.......spool up 3 dustbin sized disc drives and type g00E... Richard -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.