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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Just to let others know about problems I've experienced with a D-Link router and with UKFSN ISDN. 1: D-Link. I bought an ISDN D-Link router but couldn't get it to work :- Problem: It is a BEAST. It uses 100% Javascript - the <body> tag is completely empty in all pages. The Javascript tries to identify the browser and displays nothing unless it can find IE5/6 or Netscape6. Netscape6 doesn't show all the link buttons, IE6 is OK for a few clicks then suddenly comes up with Page Not Available. Mozilla can cope with some of the pages but no better than NS6, Konqueror is refused entirely. Opera brings up a constant string of Javascript error alerts that make the entire browser unusable. Plus, when the router was first powered up, it DISABLED my Windows ethernet device! Turns out that the router is factory set to 192.168.0.1 - it seemed daft to me because anyone with an existing LAN (and therefore in need of a router) would have the first IP of the range allocated already! I had to reboot Windows 6 times - change the IP of the Windows box to enable the LAN connection to the router, change the router IP and reconnect, change the IP of the Windows box again and reconnect again. Solution: The D-Link ISDN router shipped with the WRONG FIRMWARE - when I finally RTFM, none of the pictures of the web browser configuration tool in the PDF manual were even similar to what IE (sometimes) displayed. I located a firmware update on the CD that came with the router, installed it and suddenly the whole config. page set was transformed. It now works in any browser, even Lynx can access a lot of the pages. The preset IP of 192.168.0.1 is still a potential hiccup though. If I have to do a factory config reset, I'll have to power off the main box and telnet into the router from another box to change the IP of the router. Overall, a very poor show from D-Link - shipping hardware with inoperable out-of-date software. Tech. Support at D-Link offered no clues to the firmware problem or to the second problem of connecting the router to UKFSN. D-Link Tech. Support passed the file on my problems on to the technical team (Duh? Tech. Support isn't technical?) but no reply is forthcoming so far. 2: The router won't connect to the internet via the UKFSN ISDN number - it fails to receive a valid IP to use and tries to use 0.0.0.0 at the internet end of the connection. Not surprisingly, it then drops the line. When I eventually corrected my error in my Demon configuration, Demon connected fine and the router displayed a usable IP as part of the connection. The connection is maintained for as long as traffic continues. All OK there now. I haven't tried UKFSN again today but when David (Johnson) mentioned problems with a D-Link ADSL router with out-of-date firmware and UKFSN+ISDN he also suggested posting to the main list. All I can say is that anyone considering purchasing a D-Link unit (ISDN/ADSL) should look for a firmware update on the User's Manual CD BEFORE looking too far into 'problems' with the connection / HTML and always bear in mind that the router will be preset to 192.168.0.1 so any machine using that address needs to either be temporarily changed or shutdown until you use the telnet connection to change the IP of the router. With the firmware updated, the router appears, so far, to be working well. With UKFSN, they have provided excellent dial-up access for the last few months for me but this 0.0.0.0 problem doesn't appear to be unique to me. Anyone else had similar problems with UKFSN / other ISDN ISP's? (It'll help if I have more than just one instance to bring to UKFSN.) - -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.codehelp.co.uk http://www.dclug.org.uk http://www.wewantbroadband.co.uk/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+e6ZFiAEJSii8s+MRArrxAJ9dr7pbtZwx9sHjvvaNMdMlcyGZtACeM7vu ulK4P0paQlQiI7JVZEcrClk= =RJ5f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.