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Re: [LUG] Simian evolution on redhat 7.0?



hi,

may be if you put up the email addresses of the relevant people some of us working in the industry could send some requests/comments,

kev


Aaron Trevena wrote:
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Simon Waters wrote:


MATTHEW BROWNING wrote:

I have spoken to some `key personnel' around here about these
policies and the general answer seems to be that it is the
responsibility of a University to provide experience of a real world
computing environment to its students.


Funny I thought it was the responsibility of Universities to
educate, and foster discussion, and development of new ideas,
but then I was at Uni a long time ago ;)

Their is little point in my opinion in trying to educate people
about current technology at University.



Indeed.


The point of university is that you study a field and are then equipped to work in that field for a large portion of your working life. Very little in what you do day to day changes despite all the hype - you still have to solve the same problems regardless of the technology you use.

Skills specific to particular products shouldn't be part of a degree - You wouldn't expect a chief to spend time concentrating on the ins and outs of Birds Custard products - you'd expect him to be able to pick up and food and if necessary read the label. The same goes for computing - you should be able to pick up a book or a manual and the use a product - the fact you rarely can is the fault of vendors not graduates or universities.

I'd be fairly pissed off if I had a surgeon who could only use 'Acme' surgery products, and quite rightly.

What angered me about Plymouth university is that despite frequent requests they had no interest in teaching us Cisco, very little interest in teaching us any UNIX beyond the syllabus but were quite happy to have a Microsoft Course which was advertised in lectures. Funnily enough not a soul was interested - those who gave a toss about the certification got it free on their placement, the rest of us wanted cisco or novell or linux certification - but Plymouth is a Microsoft only shop for certification and training.

I even contacted the training department, they weren't interested in working with anybody but MS, no they wouldn't want to work with teh LUG, or the computing society, or student reps - MS or nothing.

rgds,

A.






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