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Just looked the old celtic bookshop in Hyde road paignton and they have a book on Upgrading and fixing pc's Linux edition, looking at the back it has details on how to optimise hardware and the kernel, it seems also quite up to date covering newer AMD chips. it's £11.99 May get a copy, not that I seem to have time to sit down and just read without interruptions etc. Hope this may be of interest to other users, they also have RHL 6 unleashed book, I am also getting the pdf factory program which I have mentioned in another posting so I may be able to convert some documents to pdf (if they can load into windoze apps), Paul -- The Mailing List for the Devon & Cornwall LUG Mail majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe list" in the message body to unsubscribe.